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| Cardinal Czerny: No Complaints about Lack of Liturgy Discussion at the Consistory |
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Posted by: Stone - 01-16-2026, 12:48 PM - Forum: Vatican II and the Fruits of Modernism
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"Sorry We Didn’t Discuss the Liturgy" — A Complaint Cardinal Czerny Never Heard at the Consistory
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gloria.tv | January 16, 2026
Cardinal Michael Czerny, SJ, 79, said that during the consistory on 7-8 January, he did not hear anyone say, "Oh, I’m sorry we didn’t discuss the liturgy".
He told the Substack.com-account The Pillar on 13 January, that what Leo XIV will do with the Mass of the Roman Rite is "beyond my pay grade": "I can’t speculate about how he intends to approach the situation. But I can’t imagine a pope who wouldn’t want to bring peace to the Church. I think every pope since St Peter would want that," the cardinal speculated.
In general, he found the consistory a "healthy" exercise. "As soon as we got together and realised that the first thing we would do was spend the whole afternoon discussing it, we realised we were already at work. People immediately switched into gear. All three sessions were good."
"Not Possible Without Pope Francis"
When asked if the lack of collegiality among the cardinals wasn’t the elephant in the room under Francis, Cardinal Czerny denied it, saying: “No, quite the opposite. Everyone said, thought or felt that this could not have happened without Francis.”
Regarding the term 'synodality', Cardinal Czerny said that the Cardinals are closer to a common appreciation: “To appreciate doesn’t necessarily mean to be able to give the clearest of definitions.”
His "definition" of synodality is as follows: "If you just see it, you don't get it. You have to experience it."
Cardinal Czerny believes that the more synodal the Church is, the more it will evangelise.
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| Pope Leo XIV announces follow-up consistory in June, pledges annual meetings of the cardinals |
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Posted by: Stone - 01-12-2026, 10:27 AM - Forum: Pope Leo XIV
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Another Conciliar novelty...
Pope Leo XIV announces follow-up consistory in June, pledges annual meetings of the cardinals
The decision signals an ongoing emphasis on the synodal model of Church governance, first launched under Pope Francis.
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Pope Leo XIV leaving the event at the Waterfront Mass on December 2, 2025, in Beirut, Lebanon
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Jan 9, 2026
VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — Pope Leo XIV has announced that an extraordinary consistory of cardinals will be held annually in remarks delivered at the conclusion of the two-day consistory held this month.
On January 8, Pope Leo XIV met with 170 cardinals, both electors and non-electors, and formally announced that consistories will be convened annually, with the next scheduled for June 27-28, in order to strengthen consultation within the College of Cardinals and continue the synodal path requested during the pre-conclave general congregations.
READ: Pope Leo calls Second Vatican Council the ‘guiding star’ of the Church’s path
“The fact that the Holy Father has said that there will be another consistory in June, and that he wishes to continue this next year as well, is an indication that he found it very important, and that it has been in assistance to him in his role of the Successor of St. Peter,” said Cardinal Stephen Brislin during the Vatican press briefing at the conclusion of the consistory.
Pope Leo XIV made the announcement explaining that the two days of meetings were intended as a “prefiguration of our future path” and that future consistories would last three to four days. The Pope also confirmed the post-synodal “Ecclesial Assembly,” scheduled for October 2028.
The meetings brought together cardinals from around the world and were structured around linguistic working groups. There were 20 groups in total: 11 composed of non-elector cardinals and nine of elector cardinals, including diocesan ordinaries and apostolic nuncios currently in service. The methodology was designed, according to the Pope, to encourage an exchange of knowledge among participants with diverse backgrounds and pastoral experiences.
During the sessions, themes discussed included synodality, understood “not as a technical process” but as a shared journey, its implications for the exercise of authority in the Church, priestly formation, the work of nuncios, and the life of the Roman Curia, particularly with regard to greater internationalization.
LifeSiteNews previously reported comments by Luigi Casalini of the Italian blog Messainlatino, who questioned the internal process of the meeting, asking who had determined the program, selected the speakers, and decided to reduce the number of discussion topics from four to two, a decision announced by the Pope himself.
According to Vatican News reports released soon after, those questions have now been addressed, with the Holy See clarifying that the choice of topics followed a vote by the cardinals themselves, taken for reasons of time management, in which an overwhelming majority selected the themes of the Church’s mission in the modern world, considered in light of Pope Francis’s apostolic exhortation Evangelii gaudium, and the theme of synodality.
Cardinal Juan José Omella Rueda Aparicio emphasized that the Pope’s decision to convene the consistory eight months after the conclave demonstrated his desire to listen. “This strengthens us in the mission of the Church,” he said. Cardinal Pablo Virgilio David, Archbishop of Kalookan, highlighted the format of the meetings, noting that “everyone was able to speak” and that Pope Leo “listened more than he spoke,” taking notes attentively throughout the discussions.
Several cardinals underlined that the overall atmosphere was marked by what they described as “unity that is not uniformity.”
READ: Pro-LGBT Cdl. Radcliffe urges ‘openness to novelty’ in address to extraordinary consistory
Alongside these official accounts, Messainlatino reported off-the-record comments attributed to unnamed cardinals present at the consistory. According to the blog, some cardinals described the second day as more substantial than the first, while others said that familiar expressions such as “a Church that goes out” and “field hospital” were again used during the discussions, as well as the assertion that “a Church that is not synodal cannot be a true Church.”
The same source claimed that the cardinals were divided into two groups during the sessions, with older cardinals seated at the back. It also reported dissatisfaction among some participants regarding the current doctrinal, theological, and liturgical diversity within the enlarged College of Cardinals, though these remarks were not made publicly. “Some cardinals reported terrible things,” the source says, without going into detail.
The series of extraordinary consistories that will from now on be convened annually is connected to the ecclesial assembly that will be held in October 2028, originally called by Francis and now confirmed by Leo.
The ecclesial assembly will not be a new synod but the culmination of the implementation phase of the Synod on Synodality concluded in 2024.
As explained by Cardinal Mario Grech, Secretary General of the General Secretariat of the Synod, in a letter to bishops and Church leaders sent in March 2025, the assembly will serve to consolidate and evaluate the reception of the synod’s “Final Document,” which Pope Francis formally recognized as “part of the ordinary magisterium of the Successor of Peter.”
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| Pope Leo begins a new catechism series dedicated to Vatican II |
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Posted by: Stone - 01-12-2026, 10:21 AM - Forum: Pope Leo XIV
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The Conciliar Church attempting, once again, to promote the many errors of Vatican II (cf. SiSiNoNo: The Errors of Vatican II). There has been no 'return to tradition' thus far in this pontificate. Let us pray for Pope Leo XIV's conversion!
Pope Leo begins a new catechism series dedicated to Vatican II
Pope Leo on Wednesday praised the ‘liturgical reform’ launched by Vatican II that laid the groundwork for the revolutionary Novus Ordo Missae, the new Mass.
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Sculpture on St Peter's basilica door: Vatican II council
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Jan 8, 2026
VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews [slightly adapted, not all hyperlinks included from original]) — Pope Leo XIV announced Wednesday that he is beginning a catechesis series to “closely” study the Second Vatican Council, which many priests and scholars have affirmed to be in need of correction.
“We are beginning a new catechesis series dedicated to the Second Vatican Council and to a fresh reading of its Documents,” Leo wrote in an X post. “The Council’s Magisterium remains even today the North Star guiding the Church’s journey.”
“Closely studying the Council documents will help us to be attentive interpreters of the signs of the times, and to proclaim the Gospel to all,” Leo said Wednesday during his general audience.
In Leo’s strong support for Vatican II, he aligns himself with Pope Francis, who described the Council as “a visit of God to His Church,” and as “irreversible.”
The pope has not given further details thus far on the forthcoming “catechesis” of Vatican II. However, during his general audience on Wednesday, he highlighted aspects of the Council that he highly esteems.
For example, Leo praised the “liturgical reform” launched by Vatican II, which laid the groundwork for the revolutionary Novus Ordo Missae, the new Mass. The Council “set in motion an important liturgical reform by placing at the center the mystery of salvation and the active and conscious participation of the entire People of God,” Leo said in his general audience.
Liturgist and author Dr. Peter Kwasniewski has pointed out that the idea articulated in the Second Vatican Council’s Sacrosanctum Concilium that “In the restoration and promotion of the sacred liturgy, this full and active participation by all the people is the aim to be considered before all else” is backward.
“It cannot escape our notice that this text turns things on their head,” Kwasniewski remarked in 2019. “Where Pius X had said that what should be ‘provided for before everything else’ is the ‘sanctity and dignity of the temple,’ Vatican II says that ‘the aim to be considered before all else’ is ‘full and active participation by all the people.’ In doing so, it inverts the hierarchy of goods. Now the worship of God and its right condition becomes secondary to the people’s involvement.”
Pope Leo also on Wednesday lauded Vatican II for being responsible for a Church committed to “seeking the truth through the way of ecumenism, interreligious dialogue and dialogue with people of good will,” as if the Church needs to seek truth outside of Herself. The idea that the fullness of the truth is not found within the Catholic Church is heretical.
Leo’s description of the Second Vatican Council during his general audience and in his social media post as the “guiding star” of the Church’s path suggests he sees this council as surpassing in importance every other council of the Church, which is especially significant given that Vatican II appeared to contradict previous magisterial councils in certain respects.
Prelates such as Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò have pointed to errors in the Second Vatican Council regarding religious freedom and other religions, and in doing so have been supported by many priests and scholars.
For example, Bishop Schneider has said Lumen Gentium is “wrong” and errs by suggesting that Christians and Muslims participate together in the same act of adoration when it states that “Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God.”
It errs because Muslims worship on a natural level, at the same level of anyone who adores God with the “natural light of reason,” whereas Christians adore God on a supernatural level as His adopted children “in the truth of Christ and in the Holy Spirit.”
“This is a substantial difference,” Schneider observed. He explained that the use of the phrase “with us” represents a relativization of the act of adoration of God and also of Christians’ “sonship.”
In addition, Muslims reject the Trinity, which they consider to be an idolatrous idea. Christ made clear that “whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me” (Luke 10:16) and “no one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).
Schneider criticized texts suggesting that Buddhists and Hindus can attain illumination on their own, without “the grace of Christ,” as a heresy. Nostra Aetate claims that “in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery,” and that Buddhism “teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination.”
The German prelate has also criticized Dignitatis Humanae for putting forth “a theory never before taught by the constant Magisterium of the Church, i.e., that man has the right founded in his own nature, ‘not to be prevented from acting in religious matters according to his own conscience, whether privately or publicly, whether alone or in association with others, within due limits.’”
Archbishop Viganò agreed with Bishop Schneider in his criticism of the Second Vatican Council, noting that Vatican II’s formulation of religious freedom “contradict[s] the testimony of Sacred Scripture and the voice of Tradition, as well as the Catholic Magisterium which is the faithful guardian of both.”
It is also noteworthy that Vatican II’s Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintegratio, condones “prayers in common” with our “separated brethren” in “certain special circumstances, such as the prescribed prayers “for unity,” and during ecumenical gatherings.”
However, the Councils of the Church have repeatedly made clear that Catholics cannot pray with heretics or schismatics, let alone those of other religious practices:- “One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated.” — Council of Carthage
- “No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics.” — Council of Laodicea
- If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion. If any bishop or priest or deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from communion. — II Council of Constantinople
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