| Welcome, Guest |
You have to register before you can post on our site.
|
| Online Users |
There are currently 327 online users.
» 0 Member(s) | 323 Guest(s)
Applebot, Baidu, Bing, Google
|
|
|
| Msgr. Bugnini: 'We Made the Liturgy Pleasing to Heretics' |
|
Posted by: Stone - 11-02-2025, 07:39 AM - Forum: The Architects of Vatican II
- No Replies
|
 |
Msgr. Bugnini: 'We Made the Liturgy Pleasing to Heretics'
TIA [slightly adapted and reformatted, emphasis in the original] | November 1, 2025
In 2011, a reader made a correction to one of our quotes of Msgr. Annibale Bugnini, architect of the New Mass, in which he was purported to have said this about the liturgical reform: "We must strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren, that is, for the Protestants."
It turns out that this quote was a summary of a larger quote. Queen of Martyrs Press kindly uploaded a scanned photocopy of the original newspaper clipping, which gives us the full text of Bugnini's words. We reproduce the original document, which has the same meaning of the commonly used summary. His words make it evident that he planned to destroy the liturgy and make it pleasing to the Church's enemies.
In the March 19, 1965, edition of L'Osservatore Romano, Bugnini wrote about some of the changes made to the prayers of Good Friday. In the excerpt below right, Bugnini reveals the reason behind this and many other changes, affirming in clear words that the goal of the Liturgical Reform was to make the liturgy as pleasing as possible to heretics, a goal that was born specifically from the ecumenical climate of Vatican Council II.
The translated text can be read below left column, taken from the highlighted sections in yellow, below right. A larger copy can be read here.
Quote:Msgr. Annibale Bugnini
In the ecumenical climate of the Second Vatican Council, it has been noted in many quarters that some expressions of the Orationes Solemnes of Good Friday sound pretty bad [or "rather off"] today. It has therefore been persistently asked whether it would be possible to attenuate [or "tone down"] some of the phrases.
It is always regrettable to have to touch venerable texts, which have nurtured, so effectively, Christian piety, and which still retain the spiritual fragrance of the early Christian ages of the Church. Above all, it is difficult to retouch literary masterpieces of unsurpassed form and conceptuality. Nevertheless, it was deemed necessary to undertake the work, so that no one would experience spiritual discomfort in the prayer of the Church.
The revisions were limited to what was absolutely necessary... The seventh prayer bears the title: "For the unity of Christians" (not "of the Church," which has always been one). We no longer speak of "heretics" and "schimatics," but of "all brothers who believe in Christ." The complete text says: [he provides some of the new texts, the new prayers V, VI and VII mentioned above]
Scholars will consider and highlight the biblical and liturgical sources from which the new texts, carefully crafted by the Consilium Study Groups, derive or draw inspiration. And let us also note that the work has often proceeded "with fear and trembling," having to sacrifice much-loved expressions and concepts, now long familiar.
How could we not regret, for example, the "ad sanctam matrem Ecclesiam catolicam atque apostolicam revocare dignetur" ["and recall them to our holy mother the Catholic and Apostolic Church"] of the seventh prayer? And yet, love for souls and the desire to facilitate in every way the path of union with our separated brothers, removing every stone that might even remotely constitute a stumbling block or cause for discomfort, have led the Church even to these painful sacrifices."
(L'Osservatore Romano, March 19, 1965, p.6)
![[Image: A204_1-1.jpg]](https://traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/Images%20201-300/A204_1-1.jpg)
![[Image: A204_1-2.jpg]](https://traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/Images%20201-300/A204_1-2.jpg) |
|
|
| Vatican honors Hinduism, Islam with dance celebration on anniversary of Nostra Aetate |
|
Posted by: Stone - 10-30-2025, 12:59 PM - Forum: Vatican II and the Fruits of Modernism
- Replies (2)
|
|
Vatican honors Hinduism, Islam with dance celebration on anniversary of Nostra Aetate
During the dances at the Vatican, a woman alternately held up signs with an 'Om' Hindu symbol, a picture of a crucifix, and an Islamic crescent and moon.
Oct 29, 2025
(LifeSiteNews) — The Vatican celebrated on Tuesday the 60th anniversary of Nostra Aetate, the Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions, by paying homage through dance to Hinduism and Islam alongside Christianity.
A recording of the commemoration, held in the Paul VI Hall, shows women dressed in traditional-style garb dancing to Eastern and Middle Eastern music. During the dances, a woman alternately held up signs with an “Om” Hindu symbol, a picture of a crucifix, and an Islamic crescent and moon, as if to suggest that all religions are on equal footing.
The entire event, including the concluding speech by Pope Leo XIV, was permeated by the value of dialogue and “friendship” between religions rather than the traditional Christian mandate to “go and make disciples of all nations,” that is, convert them to the true faith.
Leo said during his closing remarks that Nostra Aetate “opened our eyes to a simple yet profound principle: dialogue is not a tactic or a tool, but it’s a way of life – a journey of the heart that transforms everyone involved.” This statement suggests, contrary to Christ’s Great Commission, that dialogue is not meant to be a means toward conversion, but rather an end in itself.
Nostra Aetate itself is marked by this false ecumenical attitude, since it “does not actually exhort non-Christians to convert to Christ and His Church in order ‘to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth,’” as Matt Gaspers has noted for Catholic Family News.
The document instead claims that the Church “esteems” non-Christian religions and “exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions … they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men.”
Nostra Aetate goes so far as to suggest that men can reach God through pagan religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism, in stark contradiction to the longstanding teaching of the Church and the Syllabus of Errors’ condemnation of the idea that “Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.”
The Vatican II document falsely claims that “in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery,” and that Buddhism “teaches a way by which men … may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination.”
So-called “liberation” or “illumination” is impossible through a non-Christian, pagan religion such as Buddhism or Hinduism. By worshipping multiple false gods, these religions in reality pays homage to demons, as both the Old Testament and New Testament Scriptures affirm: “For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils: but the Lord made the heavens.” (Ps. 95:5) “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.” (1 Cor. 10:19-20)
[...]Archbishop Guido Pozzo, the Secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, pointed out about a decade ago that “Nostra Aetate does not have any dogmatic authority, and thus one cannot demand from anyone to recognize this declaration as being dogmatic.”
During Tuesday’s Vatican celebration, Cardinal Kurt Koch, Prefect of the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity, shared that Nostra Aetate, remarkably, was in part prompted by the request of a Jewish historian.
“On the occasion of the meeting between Jules Isaac and Pope John XXIII on June 13, 1960, the Jewish historian presented the pope with a memorandum urgently calling for a new (way) of the Church relationship with today’s (man),” said Koch. “Pope John took up this request and commissioned the drafting of a declaration which … resulted in Nostra Aetate.”
|
|
|
|
|
