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St. Vincent of Lerins: Why Eminent Men are permitted by God to become Authors of Novelties - Stone - 01-01-2021

In his Commonitorium, St. Vincent asks the question:


Chapter 10. Why Eminent Men are permitted by God to become Authors of Novelties in the Church.

[27.] But some one will ask, How is it then, that certain excellent persons, and of position in the Church, are often permitted by God to preach novel doctrines to Catholics? A proper question, certainly, and one which ought to be very carefully and fully dealt with, but answered at the same time, not in reliance upon one's own ability, but by the authority of the divine Law, and by appeal to the Church's determination.

Let us listen, then, to Holy Moses, and let him teach us why learned men, and such as because of their knowledge are even called Prophets by the apostle, are sometimes permitted to put forth novel doctrines, which the Old Testament is wont, by way of allegory, to call "strange gods," forasmuch as heretics pay the same sort of reverence to their notions that the Gentiles do to their gods.

[28.] Blessed Moses, then, writes thus in Deuteronomy: "If there arise among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams," that is, one holding office as a Doctor in the Church, who is believed by his disciples or auditors to teach by revelation: well — what follows? "and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass whereof he spoke,"— he is pointing to some eminent doctor, whose learning is such that his followers believe him not only to know things human, but, moreover, to foreknow things superhuman, such as, their disciples commonly boast, were Valentinus, Donatus, Photinus, Apollinaris, and the rest of that sort! What next? "And shall say to you, Let us go after other gods, whom you know not, and serve them." What are those other gods but strange errors which you know not, that is, new and such as were never heard of before? "And let us serve them;" that is, "Let us believe them, follow them." What last? "You shall not hearken to the words of that prophet or dreamer of dreams." And why, I pray you, does not God forbid to be taught what God forbids to be heard? "For the Lord, your God, tries you, to know whether you love Him with all your heart and with all your soul." The reason is clearer than day why Divine Providence sometimes permits certain doctors of the Churches to preach new doctrines — "That the Lord your God may try you;" he says.

And assuredly it is a great trial when one whom you believe to be a prophet, a disciple of prophets, a doctor and defender of the truth, whom you have folded to your breast with the utmost veneration and love, when such a one of a sudden secretly and furtively brings in noxious errors, which you can neither quickly detect, being held by the prestige of former authority, nor lightly think it right to condemn, being prevented by affection for your old master.

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Later, in Chapter 33 (and indeed, throughout this whole treatise), St. Vincent reminds us repeatedly:

"... it is incumbent on all Catholics who are anxious to approve themselves genuine sons of Mother Church, to adhere henceforward to the holy faith of the holy Fathers, to be wedded to it, to die in it; but as to the profane novelties of profane men — to detest them, abhor them, oppose them, give them no quarter."


RE: St. Vincent of Lerins: Why Eminent Men are permitted by God to become Authors of N... - Stone - 01-01-2021

As a reminder, this is what Bp. Williamson is preaching and advocating for - and by extension, those priests (and bishops) who do not publicly denounce these errors, who do not publicly oppose them, who do give 'quarter' to these errors:


·The new religion can build your Faith.

·Attending the New Mass can build your Faith.

·Do whatever you think you need to do to keep the Faith, which can include attending the Novus Ordo    Mass.

·If you attend the Novus Ordo Mass you have to be careful, but you can find the grace of God there and sanctify your soul.

·Not everyone needs to avoid the Novus Ordo Mass.

·Attending the Novus Ordo may do more good than harm spiritually.

·Not every priest needs to leave the conciliar church or stop saying the Novus Ordo Mass.

·The Novus Ordo Mass does not always undermine the Faith, though frequently it does.

·The problem with the Novus Ordo Mass is that it is ambiguous. It can be made to favour the new religion, but does not have to, it can also be done in line with the old religion.

·The problem with Vatican II is that it is ambiguous.

·By distancing yourself from the conciliar church, you are putting yourself in danger and risk becoming a Pharisee who is disconnected from reality.

·We must accept the supposed ‘Eucharistic miracles’ of the Novus Ordo Mass as genuine.

·The Eucharistic miracles of the Novus Ordo Mass have lessons for Traditional Catholics, one of which is that the Novus Ordo Mass doesn’t always have to be avoided.

·The Novus Ordo Mass is not as good as the Traditional Mass, but it is still better than nothing.