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A brief reminder - while Pope Francis is doing so very much to undermine the last vestiges of the Catholic Faith, he is only building on the nefarious work begun at Vatican II and of his Conciliar predecessors.  

  • From the Summary of the Principal Errors of Vatican II EcclesiologyThe Vatican II Concept of Ecumenism 
    Quote:The Vatican II concept of the Church as "People of God" is false ecumenism. It leads to the belief that Protestantism is no more than one particular form of the same Christian religion.

    The Vatican II Council document "Unitatis Redintegratio" heretically teaches that "…the Holy Spirit does not refuse to make use of other religions as a means of salvation."

    John Paul II's document "Catechesi Tradendae" repeats the same heresy.

    The Vatican II concept of Ecumenism, condemned by Catholic moral teaching and law, has arrived at the point of allowing the sacraments of penance, Eucharist and Extreme Unction to be received from "non-Catholic ministers" (Vatican II Canon 844 N.C) and it favours "ecumenical hospitality" by authorizing Catholic ministers to give the sacrament of the Eucharist to non-Catholics.

    Vatican II Canon 844 "Christ's faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister, may lawfully receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick to members of the eastern Churches not in full communion with the Catholic Church, if they spontaneously ask for them and are properly disposed. If there is danger of death or if, in the judgement of the diocesan Bishop or of the Episcopal Conference, there is some other grave and pressing need, Catholic ministers may lawfully administer these same sacraments to other Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church."

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Francis' Ecumenism: Eucharist Is Next Step

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Francis wants to continue on the ecumenical path "with passion", he told a delegation of the Lutheran World Federation on 25 June. The occasion was a commemoration of the 25 June 1530 Augsburg Confession when the imperial estates of the time put their Lutheran misbelief in writing in that city.

Francis wants the next step of ecumenism to be about understanding the "intimate connection between Church, ministry and Eucharist."

He said that the circumstances that led to the spin-offs in the 16th century cannot be undone, but could be seen anew in the context of a "reconciled history" - whatever that means.

Francis focused his speech on the "one baptism for the forgiveness of sins", but left out the other sacraments which the Protestants deny, such as confession. Presently, he is dreaming of a "unity reconciled in differences" - which in the field of religion is a contradiction in terms.

The Protestant groups with which Francis conducts his ecumenical talks are, without exception, empty administrative structures without real "believers."


President, Lutheran World Federation
“With gratitude we come today to share our joy and our hope as we, Catholics and Lutherans, continue our journey from conflict to communion.”

Pope Francis met with representatives of the Lutheran World Federation on the 491st anniversary of the Augsburg Confession. The Augsburg Confession, originally an attempt to avoid a schism in Western Christianity, was later adopted as the principal Lutheran confessional document.

“...From the conflict we experienced for centuries and centuries, to the communion that we seek, and to do this, we must put ourselves in crisis. A crisis that is a blessing from the Lord.”

Pope Francis noted the “shared treasures” common to all Christians: one God, one body and one baptism.

“Holy Baptism is the primordial divine gift at the basis of all our religious efforts and our commitment to reaching full unity. Because ecumenism is not an exercise of ecclesial diplomacy. It is a journey of grace.”

He encouraged all Christians to continue on this journey toward complete unity.

“It will be important to examine with spiritual and theological humility the circumstances that led to the divisions, trusting that, though it is impossible to undo the sad events of the past, it is possible to reinterpret them as part of a reconciled history.”

On behalf of the World Lutheran Federation, the Archbishop of the Lutheran Church of Christ in Nigeria, Musa Filibus, gave the Pope a paten and chalice made by the Taizé Community, a global community of Catholics and Protestants.

To conclude their meeting, the Pope invited everyone present to pray together, for the “restoration of full unity among Christians.”